Psychointegration: FORGIVENESS

Monday, October 12, 2009

FORGIVENESS

FORGIVENESS

THE TRUE CONCEPT OF FORGIVENESS

IS FORGIVENESS A DIVINE ACT?

Contrarily to what we have learned, Forgiveness is not an act of Love, but an act of arrogance. During the time Jesus lived, he couldn’t preach this message because it was not the time for the people to understand this concept; he couldn’t speak about Ego and the roles of ego either because unfortunately the people of that time were not ready to receive these teachings. They would have distorted the messages. Now is the time! Since “there is a time for each revelation”

SESSION 20/MAR/02

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel.

Interlocutor: Master Can I ask you a question?

Ruanel: Sure, but it must be short

Interlocutor: Actually I have two questions one of them is related to the concept of Forgiveness, I’ll read the summary I have for the record and you will tell me if it is correct:

FORGIVENESS: Dict. Act of excusing a mistake or offense, end of blame, absolving the debt, offense, fault, crime or another thing that offends. ¦ Absolution of a well-deserved punishment ¦ Grupo Elron. Act of arrogance that comes from ego in which a person who considers he has been offended, in an ostentatiously expression of magnanimity absolves the alleged offender.

Pardon implies offense, to forgive a person means that one must be offended first, but nobody has the power to offend anybody unless one gives that power to the other person. Paradoxically forgiveness should never fall back on the person that allegedly offends us, but in oneself because oneself has given space fatuously to that offense. Each one of us create our own state of mind: "Men are not disturbed by things, but for the interpretation made about them". The offender, therefore, is always oneself: They offended you because you offended yourself. As a result when somebody forgives an offense, the only thing he or she is doing is unbind the responsibility that belongs to oneself and transfer it to the other.

Ruanel: The definition is correct because one forgives from one’s ego.

Interlocutor: So, contrarily to what everybody believes, forgiveness is an act of arrogance?

Ruanel: Forgiveness is not an act of Love, but an act of arrogance, I ratify it. And there are people that take forgiveness above Love. That is to say, it is as if I put Ego above Love.

Interlocutor: It has always been said that one forgives from the heart.

Ruanel: I repeat it, so that there is no doubt: One forgives from one’s ego. The heart doesn't forgive because it has to blame first and the heart doesn't blame.

I will be clear and concise on this matter, as you already know that I am: The heart doesn't blame; then, if there is no fault, there is no forgiveness. Therefore, the heart won't forgive what it has not blamed. Saying that one forgives from the heart, it is a total fallacy!

Interlocutor: The concept is perfectly clear. What attracts my attention is that a lot of people ask me questions that are obvious for me. For example, the definition of forgiveness they have not understood it completely.

Ruanel: Those people have mistaken information and for that reason they question. My brother Rah, from Antares IV always mentions as an example the communicating vessels. In elementary physics, if you have a liter of water in a container and you want to transfer it to another that has less capacity, you won't be able to do it because it will overflow.

Apply this example to these people, if they have their causal body full of concepts, they won't be able to put other concepts if they don't empty it first.

People that question the definition of pardon start from a fallacy that has its origin in erroneous information.

From the causal body one doesn’t blame. It is as if you told me that a Master of Light judges or condemns. A Spirit of Light doesn’t judge. Then, if he doesn’t condemn he cannot forgive.

I am speaking from the juridical point of view that you know well. If I don’t condemn, I don’t absolve either. If I don't blame, I don’t forgive. Absolution is forgiveness. Then, How will I forgive to whom I have not blamed?

Interlocutor: It is clear.

Ruanel: Well. And from which field can you blame?

Interlocutor: As you said it, only from the field of EGO.

Ruanel: Correct, only from the EGO! One plus one equals two. There is no one plus one equals four.

Interlocutor: What perplex me is that many people don't wait to know thoroughly our material, which is definitely the teachings of the Masters of Light, but rather they directly have an opinion from the small data they have. And obviously they misinterpret and hold mistaken opinions.

Ruanel: It is very difficult to introduce in the mind of people new concepts. Remember the example of the communicating vessels. First you have to empty the vessels before being able to transfer new content. Keep in mind that the new paradigms were always combated. Always!

It happened with Leonardo Da Vinci, with Galileo, with Giordano Bruno. And it will keep happening.

Remember to Simon Newcomb who said that a machine heavier than the air could never fly, imagine what he would say if he saw airplanes, rockets and satellites now. What would he think?

Interlocutor: Surely that they are work of heretics.

Ruanel: Exactly!

Interlocutor: Moving on to another topic, some days ago I incorporated in the Technical Dictionary of Psychointegration the word "Anger" that I extracted from the Technical Dictionary of Scientology. Here you say “Anger is simply the process of trying to hold everything still.” I don't understand it completely.

Ruanel: The person who is angry doesn't allow that anybody changes anything he has. There are several types of anger. The visible anger and the subtle anger, where a person, by sheer whim, doesn't allow another person to change a concept or idea.

The word "whim" which is used in the physical plane, is another root of Ego. Then, Anger is part of Ego: “Don't touch this, leave it as it is” It is a childish whim.

Interlocutor: And antagonism?

Ruanel: Anger has nothing to do with antagonism. People confuse Anger with Antagonism, but they are two different things. Antagonism is when you rebuke to the other. Anger, on the other hand, locks you up and it doesn't allow that anything changes.

Interlocutor: Now I see it clear.

Ruanel: “Leave my idea as it is” This is anger. Antagonism is when you overturn yourself negatively to the other that is to say, facing him. You don’t isolate it like in the case of anger. Most of the people confuse both things, taking antagonism as anger. The discharge of anger is antagonism, not anger.

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The person that forgives is because he or she prejudged before… For example, if somebody tries to hurt me and I understand his limitations and I don’t prejudge him. What would I forgive If I don’t have anything to forgive? During the time Jesus was embodied maybe the people would not have understood the complete concept of forgiveness.

It’s easy to understand that pedantic and arrogant people get offended easily, it’s because they have EGO. People with low self-esteem and complex of inferiority get offended easily as well because they have EGO too. If they had their ego integrated, no insult, no aggression, no offense would harm them. Therefore, they wouldn’t have anything to forgive.

The Masters of Light don’t have ego because they think about the others, they live to serve others, and they don’t need anything, therefore nobody can offend them since they don’t prejudge either.

For example: A couple is quarreling about something, one of them –the one who has stronger character- says: “This time I’ll let you live, I’ll forgive you” That’s sheer pedantry!!

Another example: A young man is quarreling with another and he says: “Leave! before I change my mind, this time I’ll forgive you, you should thank me” That’s sheer arrogance!!

Finally, if Ego is the one that is offended. Why should I forgive an offense? Who has the power to offend me?

Jorge Olguin

USEFUL PHRASES

'You cannot cut off the free will of others, not even from those who want to disturb, because it's against the laws of the game. Then,if God grants Free Will to all beings, unfortunately He cannot stop giving it to those people who destroy and disturb the path of Light'

' How to overcome the ego and integrate the selves? By enjoying Service... When enjoying Service one does not require any other type of enjoyment, because one enjoys thinking of the others. One is no longer the main actor, not even as a supporting actor. One enjoys giving. and it doesn't mean to be deprived of one's own enjoyment. A Spirit of Light enjoys debating. And this is not ego.'

'Wisdom, as wel Goodness, is not imposed but proposed. But remember that humanity is like a chain, where any link support the other. If you ascend, all mankind will ascend. If you fall, we all will fall. That's Why you're so important to everyone.'

'Do not listen to a message that conditions or imposes dogmas. Pay no attention to those words that hurt sensitivity.'

'Every human being on the physical plane plays a certain role (male, female, father, mother, son, dentist, painter, agronomist, teacher, etc..) Death is only the act when one lowers the curtain. The character ends, but not the actor who played that role.'

'When people are attached to old religious texts they do not advance ... In the words of the Master Jesus with his wisdom, "you cannot put new wine in old wineskins." When most people do not advance, they move backwards, and the worst thing is that they end up dragging others while they fall.'

'There are many shortcomings in the spiritual teachings that are given because they create fear in those who seek true Path of Light.'

'Give Service to your fellowmen. - But if I have nothing to give! Financially I'm broke. - What do you mean that you have nothing to give? You have your time, you have your spirit, your heart to give guidance, you have your warmth to provide it! There you are serving! So, the secret is not to doubt, the secret is to serve unconditionally. It's easy to talk about Service. The challenge is to carry out an altruistic act. You have to serve till the end.'

'Jesus taught kindness and this was replaced by strict rules and dogmatic teachings. The Master preached Service, but today, those who believe they represent him behave as leaders who seek to be served. Love that comforts became a dogma that imprisons the spirit and it doesn't let him enjoy. The spiritual path does not mean a tyrannical practice, but peace, it means joy, it means to merge with the Absolute in unlimited ecstasy.'

'Investigating based on learning means evolution. And it's even better if you convey all that you have learned.'

'He who has more ego, desires to dominate, wants to control everything and he is the one who suffers the most. The only way that one can stop suffering is to be detached. But this can be misunderstood. Detachment does not mean to neglect your neighbor, but to have more to offer Service to others, because this is important. It does not mean "indifference", which is the opposite, "It means to have more time to give Love”'

'When you have no ego "you don't need" and when you don't need naturally you feel the urge to give... Besides, when having no ego nothing hurts you, nothing can offend you... It is absurd to think that we are only here to be happy by ourselves when so many beings are still suffering and need our help.'

'Everyone will be responsible for himself, from his faults. Each one ascends or descends from level by his own responsibility. One can descend by his own faults or ascend by his own merits. otherwise, it would not be mercy.'

'Indifferent people do not hurt, but they do not help either, and although they don't move backwards, they don't advance neither.'

'We have to realize that just giving is when one receives. We must be aware of the feeling of happiness and joy when living in order to give. That is Goodness.'

'Unfortunately there is cruelty, because they hurt other people. But they also hurt themselves... That's unconsciousness. What do you do for your planet today? Who thinks about the future? Why don't they create laws of birth control in regions where newborns do not survive due to the lack of food?'

'It is very difficult to be happy on the physical plane because the Ego "needs", and embodied people de not realize that they are not happy enjoying while "doing nothing", because happiness comes from Service. He who doesn't do anything, is tired. Service, on the other hand, produces joy.'

'A man is useful while he serves.'

'There are beings who still have a long way to reach the planes of Light, because they will always give in to temptation, giving priority to indifference and meanness and forgetting Love and Service.'

'It is very difficult to introduce new concepts into the people. Just like the communicating vessels, first you have to empty them before you can add new content. Keep in mind that new paradigms were always rejected.'

'Evilness disappears when the spirit realizes that only through Love, one is able to evolve'

'We must have certainty in Love. But to be certain in Love, you have to practice it everyday and be accustomed to Serving.'

'If I have a certain problem and I see that changing my mood, I'm feeling comfortable. The one who feels comfortable is your ego.'

'Sometimes, a misunderstood attachment makes that humans behave like fools and I know that one cannot change those who do not want to change. Human beings have to realize that just giving they receive. They must be aware that the feeling of happiness and joy means to give. That is Goodness.'

'Those who are seeking gurus or teachers have to find them in those who live in humility, and if they display even a pinch of pedantry or arrogance, they must flee from these false teachers as if they were a plague.'

'The human being creates his own pain: the struggle for power, greed, speculation, indifference. Some will say: "Indifference is a lesser evil." It's not true. Because when an embodied being stops worrying about his brother, he begins worrying about himself. And there the suffering begins. His own suffering and the one of the person who was ignored.'

'It doesn't matter who you were. It matters who you are now, an that you are devoted to Service, which is altruistic. They know how to spread the messages, because the real Service is to transmit Love, to be useful to the other, to serve your neighbor, take the place of the others. "It doesn't matter who I was , but who I am going to be.'

'As well as ethics is inherent to the Light, respect, in the first place and formality in the second place are inherent to Love. Therefore, he who is respectful and formal loves the others. Just like the water that wets because it is inherent to water. God gives His Love unconditionally because Love is inherent to God.'

'Don't stop sharing. If your ego makes you feel important, you won't want to be overshadowed. Open your heart!'

'Religion, as it is taught today, does not have much to do with the true spiritual pathway. The genuine religion can be found inside of the people, not in the temples that turn to put limits to the feelings of the people.'

'It's not enough to go to the temples just to pray, prayer is useless if it's not accompanied by Service.'

'When a human being is on a mission, he has to live that mission in a joyful way, with humility, patience, thinking that if he has not reached his goal, it simply means that the time has not yet come. However if we became arrogant during the mission we are not doing our job and the goal will be lost'

'Negative emotions such as anger, envy, hatred and many other mistaken feelings, only make the ego grow up. However emotional Love is also in what we called impersonal Love and that is a positive emotion, like mercy, charity, compassion, sympathy etc.'

'Most beings are going to ask, rather to give. And many will ask: "How can we give?". "How can we give to the Father?". Giving to your neighbor is giving to the Father, because the Father is in each one of us. So if I offered my Service to my fellowmen, I am giving to the Father, and the Father will be joyful!'

'The human being is spirit, the spirit is concept, therefore the human being is concept. It means that the man is a being who can be human by having ideas. Unfortunately, the reactive mind is a ballast so overwhelming, that human beings stop thinking and they live sleeping.'

'He who has the more knowledge is going to be more responsible, because he will have to give that knowledge for the benefit of those who want to learn.'